"Racist" Maryland Student Leader Vows Patrols Against Black Crime
Posted in Anti-Black, Extremist Propaganda, Hate on Campus by Hatewatch Staff on March 27, 2013
White supremacist student Matthew Heimbach, a thorn in the side of Maryland’s Towson University who has led two racist campus organizations, says his White Student Union (WSU) will start patrolling the campus at night next week in order to halt what his group characterizes as a “black crime wave.”
Heimbach, a 21-year-old who has said he had his “racial awakening” while still in high school, has been in the national news since earlier this month, when he and fellow WSU member Scott Terry interrupted panelists at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) with a series of racist arguments. Terry advocated “separate but equal” policies, described slavery as providing food and shelter to black people, and allegedly muttered, “Why can’t we just have segregation” in the exchange. The event, caught on videotape and broadcast nationally, was a severe embarrassment to CPAC, which has tried to avoid being tarred as racist.
Now Heimbach, who describes himself as “commander” of the WSU (a possible hat tip to the late “commander” of the American Nazi Party), says that his group will be leading patrols of three male and one female student several nights a week. The men will be armed with heavy police flashlights and the woman will carry pepper spray.
Under the headline “Black Crime Wave Continues!”, the WSU website claims that “every single day black predators prey upon the majority white Towson University student body.” Heimbach also told The Baltimore Sun that “every time the offender is a black male, usually between 18 and 25.” His website adds that “White Southern men have long been called upon to defend their communities when law enforcement and the State seem unwilling to protect our people”— a fairly obvious allusion, it appears, to the terroristic role of the Ku Klux Klan during Reconstruction.
In fact, the university said in a statement, there is no crime wave, black or otherwise, although there have been concerns about sexual attacks and armed robberies. The school said that violent crime on campus fell 37.5% from 2011 to 2012.
In response to Heimbach’s announcement, Towson also said that the WSU is not an officially recognized campus organization (it is allowed to rent campus facilities for meetings, as many other off-campus groups also may do); that Towson is “one of the safest campuses” in the Maryland state system; and that the general public ought not to “take the law into their own hands.” But the school added that it would increase its own evening patrols in a bid to make the campus community feel safer.
The WSU is not some namby-pamby opponent of multiculturalism. Its website carries links to the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC), the descendant of the segregationist White Citizen Councils of the 1950s and 1960s and a group that has described black people as a “retrograde species of humanity.” As part of its platform, the CCC opposes “all efforts to mix the races of mankind.” The WSU website also links to the website for “The Political Cesspool,” a radio show based in Memphis, Tenn., that specializes in sympathetic interviews with leading racists and anti-Semites.
Heimbach’s WSU is not his first racist organization. For a time, he was the president of the Towson chapter of Youth for Western Civilization (YWC), another racist campus group that was headed nationally by Kevin DeAnna, another hard-liner who also has worked with white supremacist organizations. DeAnna quit that group in February 2012. Later last year, after members of Heimbach’s YWC chapter chalked “White Pride” on campus sidewalks, the group lost the support of the university administration and official status, leading to its collapse. At that point, the Towson group was the only remaining chapter of YWC, which is now apparently defunct.
Heimbach then started the WSU as a replacement. Soon enough, it had gathered members like Scott Terry (Heimbach has claimed a highly improbable 50 members), whose own website includes sections with headlines like “Arguments Against Miscegenation” — that is, what the Klan would call “race-mixing.” Terry also writes about “Kinism,” a racist ideology that emphasizes close relationships among “kith and kin,” meaning members of the same race. It also links to the sites of the CCC and a racist journal called American Renaissance, whose leader, Jared Taylor, has written that black people are incapable of sustaining any kind of civilization. Taylor was brought by Heimbach to speak at a WSU campus event last August.
In an interview with a white nationalist radio show last October, Heimbach detailed some of his racist views. Warning that the “enemy is at the gates,” he said that white people are “rediscovering who they are” and waking up to the threat. “We’re seeing other cultures take over essentially our country and are replacing what we knew and grew up with and what our ancestors fought and died for, for something entirely foreign,” he said. He said that while he didn’t agree with using Nazi symbols, he would not “insult anyone” by attacking them for doing that because “if you’re out there advocating for white interests … I commend you for it.”
Heimbach doesn’t limit himself to racist student groups. He’s also the head of the Baltimore chapter of the CCC and a member of the League of the South, a neo-secessionist group that opposes racial intermarriage, seeks to impose “Anglo-Celtic” supremacy on a Southern nation, and sees egalitarianism as an evil doctrine.
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on March 27th, 2013 at 10:47 am
Youth is wasted on the young — and stupid.
(And I say this as someone only five years older than Heimbach.)
on March 27th, 2013 at 11:39 am
Oh, we’ll be hearing about this guy… nothing good. And I’ll guess he has a sinecure for life assured him…in the Big House.
on March 27th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
Can a white person become a white advocate, and openly work for the advancement of the white race, without being called a ‘racist’? And let’s say they were calm, educated, erudite, whimsical, funny, engaging, attractive, strong, witty, and wise. And let’s assume they were not hateful, but simply working as an advocate for white people just like any other minority figure. For example, if a white Ghandi emerged on the scene and advocated non-violent protest. And they claim to be a “community organizer”, “advocate”, “spokesman”, “activist”, or whatever. And let’s say they have nothing to do with the KKK, Nazis, or any other group of supremacists.
Imagine just a white Ghandi emerging in the media, who claims whites are being oppressed, and their rights violated. Would they be allowed to do that in your mind?
Ruslan Amirkhanov said,
on March 27th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
I guess white crime is cool then. And why not? After all 90-95% of crime is INTRA-racial, a commonly known fact in criminology.
on March 27th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
Edward, once again, no one is stopping you.
We are simply criticizing your actions.
And you are no Mohandas Gandhi.
on March 27th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Ruslan, crime, regardless of race, isn’t cool..However, that’s not what’s being addressed here… If a group of students want to start a crime prevention group then kudos to them..Granted, w/o the help of local authorities such a group could be considered suspect but if there is indeed a threat, then proper steps should be taken to prevent attacks, regardless of ethnicity..
on March 27th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
Towson University should expel Heimbach immediately before he causes harm to other students.White supremacists patrolling a college will lead to civil rights lawsuits which will bankrupt a prestigious University.
on March 27th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
regardless of the ethnicity of the criminals, i meant to add.
Sam Molloy said,
on March 27th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
A 2010 series on Racism available on Youtube urged a focus on what they did, not who they are. I agree. Victims don’t care about their tormenter’s race, education level, their lack of both parents, their socioeconomic postion, or any other excuses. At the time of the crime, they just wish that person had been kept in jail the last time they commited a similar act.
Mitch Beales said,
on March 27th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
Edward you must be new here. What exactly is the “white” race? How could anyone possibly give creedence to “claims whites are being oppressed, and their rights violated”? History shows us that, in virtually every case it is “whites” who are the oppressors.
Brock Henderson said,
on March 27th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
Oh yeah, Anglo-Celtic supremacy in the South is so radical and on the fringe . . . except that it ISN’T.
What’s this? Oh that’s right, that’s HOW THE SOUTH WAS FOUNDED!
No, Ruslan, I don’t think any of us believe that the murders committed by non-Hispanic white Americans are ok. But . . . umm, what’s our share of the.felony murders committed in America, Comrade? Now what is it for blacks? Hispanics?
I must commend you for something, by the way. The agonizing mental and psychological work you do in your head, training yourself to actually believe in this belly-laugh-inducing concept known as “anti-racism,” is worthy of a little bit of admiration. God knows I don’t ever give myself that much of an intellectual challenge, tying my brain in knots trying to separate myself from . . . you know, reality.
on March 27th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
Well, “Edward/Eugene/Ezra Mead/Jason/Annie, you yourself say you don’t read anything we post, so I’m sure you’re not really interested in the answer.
Nonetheless, you’re still being tested on the material, and here it is, again!
1. If you’re here to “debate leftists,” why are you ignoring their responses?
2. If you don’t read “their posts anymore,” why are you here?
3. How can you have their posts on “permanent ignore,” when they’re put on a weblog, not sent in a stand-alone e-mail to you?
4. When you have had a “real job and a wife and family, and a nice home and car he worked for?”
5. Why should Ruslan Amirkhanov “go away?” Are you the webmaster of this site?
6. How do you propose to enforce that demand?
7. Do you seriously expect anybody to obey your demands at this point? You have already stated that we are “crazy,” so why are you issuing them?
8. If Ruslan is a “crazy person” and you “don’t read him,” why should it matter if he is here or not?
9. On that line, why should it matter what he writes? Is he ruining your life?
10. You have repeatedly stated that what appears on this web page “does not matter” and is “not important.” Why, then, are you so concerned with it?
11. Do you believe that freedom of speech only applies to you?
12. What legal or racial theory is that based on?
13. How are you such an expert on the lifestyles of leftists?
14. According to you leftists “all probably live in a college town in a crummy basement apartment, doing drugs, with no job, never even had a girlfriend. They’re probably all gay, unattractive, effeminate, overweight slobs. Basically deviants. So they get mad when they see a normal healthy man who has a job, looks good, is clean cut, and has a real job and a wife and family, and has a nice home and car he worked for. So these losers are all jealous.” If “leftists” are “deviants” in the first place, why would they be “jealous” of others?
15. Leftists include Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman, and John F. Kennedy. Were any of them “gay, unattractive, effeminate, overweight slobs?”
16. Leftist war heroes include Theodore Roosevelt (Spanish-American War), Harry S. Truman (World War I and dropper of two atomic bombs), John F. Kennedy (World War II), George McGovern (World War II), Al Gore (Vietnam), and John Kerry (Vietnam). Were they “gay, unattractive, effeminate, overweight slobs?”
17. What is the definition of a “normal, healthy man?”
18. Why is having a “car he worked for” so critical to normality?
19. What if you live in a major city where parking is a nightmare?
20. As a Ph.D. and a university professor, you must work with colleagues who do not “look good,” or are necessarily “clean cut,” nor can afford a “car he worked for.” How do you get along with them?
21. Does the term “projection” mean anything to you?
22. You indicate intense anger at and obsession with leftists who have made a great deal of money and live well through their own energy and hard work. Is this because you still live in your parents’ basement and have never earned a penny in your entire life?
23. You claim that I and the other regular posters here are deviants who live in “crummy basement apartments in college towns” who have never had jobs, wives, or girlfriends. Please give your research, sources, footnotes, and interviews that have enabled you to come up with such a detailed description of our lives, and explain to us who we are and what we are doing.
24. You have asked us for our “10-year-resumes,” which I presume is part of that research. Since you are now defining us, please present those “resumes” for review.
25. In one of your many incarnations, you have urged your opponents to do the following: “I urge both of you to focus your lives on real world issues that will improve your lives, such as getting a better paying job, joining the military, getting married, saving up to buy a home, or doing anything that will make a real man out of you.” Have you done any of the above?
26. If you have joined the military, please list your service branch, medals, and campaigns.
27. We notice that nowhere in your prescription for life to you include the concept of “community service.” Can you explain this?
28. Please define “Community service.”
29. Have you engaged in any acts of community service, e.g., serving in government, supporting charities, mentoring youth, participating in fundraisers for charities or awareness campaigns to address diseases, or even given blood?
30. If so, please list all such incidents.
31. You have also stated, “The posters on here are all a bunch of anti-white bigots and haters. They speak nothing but lies.” Why are you therefore continuing to engage “liars” in dialogue?
32. Why are you so obsessed with the sexuality of leftists and whether or not they have girlfriends?
33. You indicate that leftists are “gay.” Why would a gay person be “jealous” of someone with a “wife” of the opposite sex?
34. Where did you gain you expertise in gay lifestyles?
35. Why have you changed your sex in your names?
36. You say that all leftists “live in college towns in crummy basement apartments, doing drugs, with no job.” By that logic, how do they pay the rent?
37. You claim to have a Ph.D. and be a tenured professor. Where is that college and what do you teach, and what have you written for your dissertation?
38. What do your colleagues and students think about your statement denouncing your “college town?”
39. Does watching black women perform on music videos make someone an expert on black culture, or on the culture created by black musicians and white music promoters?
40. Why, if you think that American blacks are not “your people,” are you so fascinated with black music videos?
41. How does the behavior of black performers in music videos compare with the behavior of white performers in professional wrestling?
42. Have you done any peer-reviewed or accredited term papers on the connection between music videos and the behavior of ordinary black and white people? If so, please provide the link.
43. You are apparently well-informed on the sexual practices and movements of black women. What research have you undertaken in this field, and where can your reports be found?
44. Did that research include sexual encounters with black women? If so, please list all of them, the types of encounters, positions used, the personal information about the involved persons, and whether or not these encounters were provided willingly or for hire.
45. Did you practice “safe sex” during this research?
46. How do you square these acts of miscegenation with Nazi racial laws that forbid such behavior?
47. Have any of these encounters resulted in children? If so, are you supporting them?
48. Does watching documentaries about remote African tribes make one an expert on African-American life?
49. Are loud and pushy women in supermarkets a threat to America’s survival?
50. Are loud and pushy black women in supermarkets a threat to America’s future?
51. Are you being forced to marry or reproduce with loud and pushy black women?
52. Why are you so obsessed with loud and pushy black women in supermarkets?
53. Are these loud and pushy black women preventing you from shopping?
54. Have you written a peer-reviewed academic paper on loud and pushy black women in supermarkets? If so, please provide the link.
55. Does watching music videos featuring loud black women and seeing loud and pushy black women make you an expert on famine in the Ukraine in the 1930s?
56. Are you sexually obsessed with loud and pushy black women?
57. You indicate a fascination with loud and pushy black women. Do you find quiet and polite black women sexually attractive?
58. Please list any and all black women that you find sexually attractive.
59. In what field did you earn your Ph.D. and where can we find your dissertation?
60. You claim that you answer all arguments with data. Please provide links to this data, and show that it has met academic standards. (As a Ph.D. with tenure at a university, you must know what those are)
61. Tell us how the Russian people greeted their Nazi invaders with flowers, with proofs and citations.
62. Tell us how Stalin intended to mate captured German civilians with monkeys to create a super-race, with proofs and citations. Your statement: “In the closing days of WWII the Soviet army was an entire army of rapists. Stalin had a secret agreement with Churchill and Roosevelt to take 4 million German civilians as slaves to Siberia to work in the Gulags — German women, old people teenagers, children. German babies were even taken for medical experiments. Stalin has a nightmarish dream of breeding humans with gorillas to create a super race of human/ape hybrids, which of course, failed. Read yourself in the Yalta agreement. It says the Soviets can take civilians as ‘labor in kind’ — meaning SLAVES!” Can you prove this with documentary evidence, such as examples of this “super race of human/ape hybrids?”
63. Why would “human/ape hybrids” be a “super race?” Would they be superior to, say, the Aryan race?
64. Please give your academic credentials in biology and anthropology in support of this statement.
65. Tell us how Norman Rockwell sided with Hitler, with proofs and citations.
66. Please give your academic credentials in art in support of this statement.
67. Show us your proof that the white man is superior to the black man, with academic citations.
68. You have also told us that you do not associate with neo-Nazis like Hal Turner, and so forth. Yet you have also said, on May 3rd, 2012 at 11:20 pm: “What’s wrong with being a neo-Nazi?” You have also said, “America is an evil country. While our brave young men were fighting in the East to stop the Asiatic hoards [sic], America bombed our civilians. There were no German soldiers left in the cities near the end of WWII. There were only babies, old people, young children, women. Yet the Americans bombed these civilians. During all this time our brave young men were fighting against Communism. America is an evil country. America fought on the side of evil during WWII. And evil won that war.” How can you rectify this hypocrisy?
69. Is “our country” Germany or the United States?
70. To which country do you swear allegiance?
71. What do your colleagues and superiors at your university think about you being a neo-Nazi adherent?
72. As an educator, how do you treat Jews and blacks in your classes?
73. Have you received any complaints from them for your racism or anti-Semitism?
74. In this post, you said the following: “#47 Comment By Jason Smith On May 7, 2012 @ 12:17 pm A.D.M., Ruslan, Erica, Reynadine, Aron, etc … You will have to start doing your own work. Read some books. If you want to hire me as a consultant , I might do it, for a consulting fee of say $500 dollars per hour. I might be willing to give a speech at one of your events but I would charge a fee. Minimum $10K plus travel expenses. But no, I’m not going to do anything for you for free. FYI: I do not read any of your responses. I never click on your links. I am not going to do any work for you or answer your questions for free. I don’t do that.” Does that mean you are only involved in neo-Nazism for personal gain?
75. If you will not provide information, except for vast fees, how do you propose to gain adherents among the poor and disenfranchised?
76. Isn’t demanding money for personal financial gain in exchange for proving your cause a tactic of the Jews and blacks that you despise?
77. Why are you using tactics of the very people you detest?
78. Doesn’t behaving like a Jew or a black make you a Jew or a black?
79. When are you going to provide us with that e-mail address for our 10-year resumes?
80. You have said, “Someday you’ll be on a talk show, flogging one of your novels, and you’ll complain, ‘I once debated this guy named Ezra on the Internet and he ignored all my posts, even though they were so clever’. Then you will burst out into tears on live TV.” Care to explain this in 1,000 words or less?
81. Isn’t a statement like the above an example of using the evil leftist debate terms of “epithets, slurs, invective,” and therefore not becoming a white nationalist and neo-Nazi?
82. You gave the following statement on the death of JT Ready: “#5 Comment By Jason Smith On May 3, 2012 @ 6:20 pm I do not believe this story. I believe it’s a setup! Note, the press release calls him the “apparent” shooter, and “The evidence to this point, which will still be verified …” So it’s not yet proven what happened. It may be a setup. It could be another hoax. It is far more likely this crime was committed by a gang of Communists and JT Ready was set up! Communist gangs operate all along the southern boarder smuggling drugs and illegal aliens. That’s a fact!” Can you provide proof that JT Ready was murdered by a Communist gang?
83. You indicate that Communist gangs are smuggling drugs and illegal aliens. Since such activities are done for profit motives, in connection with powerful capitalist drug cartels, how do you reconcile this discrepancy?
84. Do the profits from the drug trade finance Communist activities?
85. If so, can you provide documented evidence on how the Communist Party of the United States and similar organizations benefit from drug trade?
86. At the same time, numerous members of the Aryan Brotherhood are heavily involved in the production and distribution of methamphetamine, an illegal substance, to the public and in prison systems. Are such activities in keeping with Nazi traditions of purity?
87. How do you reconcile their activities as being different from those of Communist drug gangs?
88. You have made the following statement: “#2 Comment By Annie On August 20, 2012 @ 1:15 pm There’s nothing wrong with being a racist. A racist is merely a person who recognizes the existence of other races, yet prefers the company of his own people. Just as gays began coming out of the closet, I say it’s time for white racists to do the same. I feel more comfortable around other white people. When I go to a restaurant, or shopping, the community where I chose to buy a home, etc … My racist views shape all my decisions, and I think that’s good. I encourage all white to become racists. When more of us come out of the closet can we find acceptance for people like us. The people who hate white racists will be forced to accept us and our beliefs. That will occur when millions of us come out of the closet. There are so many of us they won’t be able to stop us or do anything. Only when white racists are united and come out in groups will we be able to force complete acceptance of racism.” How do you reconcile this statement with the violent and often genocidal acts of fellow racists?
89. There have already been examples of racist societies: the Confederacy, Nazi Germany, and the Aryan Nations compound in Idaho. They have all failed. If they are based on racial superiority to their enemies, why and how did they fail?
90. You repeatedly ask us to defend or deny various statements and positions. However, you have also stated that you refuse to read anything we say. Why are you asking us questions about our positions if you do not read our answers?
91. You have also stated that we are “Communist liars.” If we are liars, why are you asking us where we stand on any issue, since all we state are lies.
92. You have repeatedly said that you can create a website with your own worldview. Why have you not done so?
93. You have repeatedly given differing topics as being the “important question.” Can you indicate a set of principles, aka a “political platform,” to consistently give your positions?
94. Since your positions, names, identities, and views are constantly changing, how can you say you have any core integrity?
95. If we are all crazy people, why are you wasting valuable time here instead of making your own web page?
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on March 27th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
Remind me, what discrimination and lack of opportunity afflict us whites so we need to advance? Those who would claim a need for white advancement only mean that they do not want others to share in the same rights and opportunities we already have. This is why it is called racist.
on March 27th, 2013 at 7:42 pm
“Would they be allowed to do that in your mind?”
Of course. And they would also be “allowed” to face the inevitable criticism that such “advocacy” would justifiably invite. White people almost never need advocacy as a consequence of being white. If you claim they do, it sounds like, and almost certainly is, just white supremacy/separatism dressed up as something else.
on March 27th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
A white Ghandi? That’s funny because if someone with the spiritual insight of Ghandi were to appear to us in any color, race, or religion I believe that he would not put the emphasis on his ethnicity. The emphasis would be on peace and loving each other despite our differences.
Heimbach is not an advocate he is a hateful abomination; he is pushing racism and to an extreme promoting slavery. He has lost his mind.
He needs to sit down and read, 33% of our homeless are Veterans and there are plenty of homeless white people. Since he believes in housing and feeding those less privileged than himself then he can go push his slavery proposition on the streets. I wonder how long he would last?
We aren’t speaking about people who are white and just want to develop their families and friends around being white. We are talking about people who are pushing a hate agenda and trying to force it’s belief on Americans who don’t (excuse the expression) roll like that. There are those of us who enjoy the eclectic flavor and diversity of people in our nation and don’t want hate mongering idiots raining on our civil liberties to live, love and prosper with other like minded people who cross the boundaries of both race and religion.
We need t shirts that say, “Don’t push your bigotry on me.”
on March 27th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
No crime is cool.
on March 27th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Edward, if anyone’s rights are being violated then of course they need to be looked into. And there have been cases of white men and women who have had their civil rights violated and yes they have gone to court.
But that has nothing to do with hate mongering abominations who promote hate, racial divide, violence and the serious oppression of another race. Those are not Ghandi’s by any stretch of the imagination and they do not represent a group of people having their rights violated. They are people trying to violate the rights of others.
on March 27th, 2013 at 8:46 pm
Heimbach; a true inheritance of a cow pie mind.
Now we know what has happened to all of those cow pies that used to be laying peacefully in pastures…
Some strange scientist must have taken them and inserted them into empty skulls which now yield absolutely no intelligent thought.
on March 27th, 2013 at 9:13 pm
Whites in the US are not oppressed. Whites are in a majority in the US – they are not a minority. No Gandhi is needed to fight for “white rights,” since white people have equal rights in the US. In fact, white people in the US have benefited from our unfair and unequal racial policies since the US was founded. The Civil War was required to abolish slavery, which then gave way to Jim Crow and forced segregation of the races. Only in the 1960s did blacks start to receive equal treatment under the law (and often even now not in reality). Just because we have a black President does not mean that we are in a “post-racial” society. And just because we have a black President does not mean that white people are “oppressed.”
on March 27th, 2013 at 10:02 pm
Well, these patrols sound like a recipe for disaster. Not the patrols, per se, but the people involved.
Edward — I think it depends on in what regard one is advocating for “White” people. There are plenty of “White” people who are involved in various cultural heritage groups and activities, such as Irish Dance, various Scottish organizations, various Swedish-American organizations and festivities, Italian organizations, including the Knights of Columbus. Unfortunately, Germans have a tough time because of associations with the Nazis, although German-Americans are a huge group that is wound throughout “White” American culture.
Also, frankly, many of the “cultural” activities that have a lot of adherents, such as Renaissance Faires (quite a subculture there, including me), Revolutionary War re-enactors, Pioneer Days and Pioneer groups, Civil War re-enactors (the ones I know — I am aware that there are some dyed-in-the-wool Confederacy buffs, but since I live “up north,” I haven’t personally encountered them, tend to be primarily celebrations of “White” culture, although I don’t know anyone who is involved in such groups who would seek to bar persons of other races or ethnicities from joining in.
White culture is still pretty much “dominant” in the U.S., although most white Americans I know also revel in learning about other races, ethnicities, and their cultures.
My question to you is why, given the large number of groups with which you could associate, you seem to feel alienated. If you are someone who would freak out if a 90% white group allowed “others” to also join in, well, I think you need to examine your reasons why (although you don’t say that you would freak out — I posed this as a hypothetical).
As for Gandhi-like people who attempt to address oppression through non-violence, I suggest that you look around. There are many people like this of all races. They are attempting to fight poverty, unfair work practices, inequality in educational opportunities, environmental degradation, and the like. You may not know of their work, but there are plenty of people who are trying to make the U.S. — and the world — a better place. Join with them, why don’t you? Make the world better for everyone — including “white” people.
Also — it is likely that someone will join in and explain that race is pretty much of a social construct. I am “white,” but recently found that I have the 1/16th percentage of African-American blood. So what does that make me? Mostly “white,” Northern-European Mix, and Human. The important part is the human part.
on March 28th, 2013 at 12:39 am
Edward – absolutely, I think they call those people Republicans.
Ruslan Amirkhanov said,
on March 28th, 2013 at 1:57 am
“Can a white person become a white advocate, and openly work for the advancement of the white race, without being called a ‘racist’”
No, because one, “white people”, based on all statistics, don’t need some kind of advocacy group. And because two, “white” is not a real ethnicity, culture, or nationality. As I’ve said dozens of times on here, Irish, German, Russian, etc. are actual nationalities, cultures, etc. Nobody gets upset at St. Patrick’s Day or Oktoberfest. That’s because whatever dark things might lurk in these nationalities’ pasts, there is something to German or Irish culture that ISN’T related to those things. For example, many historians and observers(especially shortly after WWII) treat the rise and success of Nazism in Germany as an aberration, specifically BECAUSE German culture had established a reputation for enlightenment and civilized behavior.
To celebrate “white” on the other hand, is to encourage that European-descended people downplay their culture and history and band together because they look kind of similar. More importantly, “white” as an identifier is inextricably linked with oppression, not just of black people or natives, but also of various Europeans who weren’t, at a particular time, the right kind of white people(that is to say they weren’t considered white at all).
” And let’s say they were calm, educated, erudite, whimsical, funny, engaging, attractive, strong, witty, and wise.”
What you are suggesting is literally one in a million, and the WN movement is nowhere near 1 million. At best some rising star will have a few of those traits, and if so he’s probably using that to scam his fellow “white brothers and sisters.”
” And let’s assume they were not hateful, but simply working as an advocate for white people just like any other minority figure.”
1. Whites aren’t minorities, and contrary to what the chicken little press says, they most likely won’t be in the US.
2. Not hateful? Doubt it. Even when WNs speak flowery phrases in public, every private conversation or meeting revolves around n-word this, Jews that. What I don’t think you guys realize is that while you can dress up a pig, it’s still a pig. So if you have some fast-talking promising young man trying to play white Martin Luther King Jr. in public, it only takes 30 seconds for someone to Google Stormfront, VNNForum, or any other WN gathering place on the net. And what will they find there, Edward?
” For example, if a white Ghandi emerged on the scene and advocated non-violent protest.”
Do you understand the profound difference between Gandhi and what you’re advocating? Gandhi was an advocate of the majority in a colonized country. What you are suggesting would, with some differences, be similar to a British person becoming an advocate for British imperial rule.
” And they claim to be a “community organizer”, “advocate”, “spokesman”, “activist”, or whatever. And let’s say they have nothing to do with the KKK, Nazis, or any other group of supremacists.”
Won’t happen. Perhaps you’re new to the movement, so let me fill you in on how it works. It NEVER “gets better,” the intellectuals never drive out the nutjobs, the conspiracy kooks, the schizophrenics, and the sociopaths. Your movement actually attracts those people.
How does it attract them? Think about it- What is the most important thing in the White Nationalist movement? Being white. If you fit the definition of “white”, you are automatically part of the “nation”, “community”, etc. This belonging and identity is something which is very important to many people in America, and if there’s a person who can’t fit in anywhere else due to lack of intelligence, mental problems, etc. yours is the easiest group to belong to; all they have to be is white. So your movement attracts hordes of idiots, which also attracts con-men, because they know they can easily deceive idiots.
“Imagine just a white Ghandi emerging in the media, who claims whites are being oppressed, and their rights violated. Would they be allowed to do that in your mind?”
Of course they’d be allowed to, but they should be laughed at if they’re making those claims. What rights are white people being denied in the US? Also, if you want to speak about rights violations, there’s tons of hard data on racial profiling and police brutality against black Americans. Does any of that concern you at all?
Robert Pinkerton said,
on March 28th, 2013 at 7:11 am
The more one sees of this fellow, the more he sounds like a ding-ding. Speaking as a lifetime lawful gun-person and firearm-rights advocate in my small way, I remind folks that the very first instruction given to anyone who wants lawfully to carry a firearm in the street, is (advance apologies for capitalized emphasis), Do NOT be provocative. A capsacin aerosol is a weapon, though not a firearm; weapon discipline govern its use also.
Ruslan Amirkhanov said,
on March 28th, 2013 at 8:06 am
““every single day black predators prey upon the majority white Towson University student body.”
John, it sounds to me like these guys are only concerned about black crime.
on March 28th, 2013 at 8:14 am
if this guy wants to start doing racist “anti-crime” patrols he should join the police force.
on March 28th, 2013 at 12:10 pm
I read about this story because I live in Maryland and its news here. At first I was thinking “this guy is a nut” but now I’m not sure he is. I think he is generally a good person who has responded to what he perceives are threats in a way that he believes he can minimize by his actions. I don’t think he’s a racist, at least not in the sense that he hates non-whites or advocates violence or even intolerance against anyone.
However, many of the comments on this blog are pretty scary. I think that most of the comments here calling for him to be kicked out of school or calling him a racist were made by extremely intolerant people that only see the bad in others.
Why have you jumped to the conclusion that this kid is a horrible person? I think a man (or woman) trying to protect women (or men or kids) from crime is doing a good thing.
Just a thought. I would ask for everyone to try to give others the benefit of the doubt, and to not use your own prejudices while trying to understand someone’s motives.
on March 28th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
Some of you above seem to claim that one must prove they are a part of a ‘victim’ group, or ‘oppressed’ as a criterion for being ‘allowed’ to become a legitimate advocate. I say this is false. I reject this precondition. I contend that any group is free to advocate peacefully for the interests of their group. There is no official government agency that issues licenses proving victim status. Unlike getting a state license to practice dentistry, work as a real estate agent, electrician, or land surveyor. These are examples of state issued license requirements to practice a profession or trade.
Anyone can become a “community organizer”, “civil rights activist”, or “UFO researcher” for that matter. These are made-up labels.
I am merely a white advocate. I am not a racist. I have no hatred for other races. I am advocating for white people, just as minorities have public spokesmen and organizers. I see myself as a white version of Gandhi. I advocate peaceful, non-violent means of protest for white people to work for their collective group interests.
You claim there is no history of whites being oppressed. Prove it! I can think of many historical examples. How about the Mongol invasions of the 13th century? Perhaps Mongolia should pay reparations to the people of Eastern Europe. Or how about the Turkish invasion of the Balkans. Ever hear of “The Gates of Vienna”? This refers to the Turkish siege on that city in 1683 — relatively modern times.
Muslims captured and enslaved white Europeans over the course of a thousand years during the middle ages. Northern Europeans were slaves in Rome, during Roman times. Ancient middle eastern civilizations captured white slaves from the northern Black sea region and also the Adriatic, and took them back to live as slaves.
I can list many historical examples of Europeans living taken as slaves.
on March 28th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
You say, “‘white people’, based on all statistics, don’t need some kind of advocacy group.”
Why? Just because you say so? What makes you so special? Tell us where we can get an official certificate proving we are part of a ‘victim’ group. Then, I’ll apply for this certificate, and THEN we will form our group.
What if a group of whites decide to form an advocacy group anyway, and they say, “We’re not going to ask Ruslan for permission.” What would you do then?
We as white people don’t need your permission to form a white advocacy group.
Why are you the sole authority of history? Maybe your narrative of history is all lies? Maybe our narrative of history is the truth.
on March 28th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
But Edward, you quite conveniently missing the point.
Outliers are not historical proof. And the latest date you can come up with is 1683.
Are people with light skin being oppressed TODAY? Hardly.
But you are more than welcome to play your little MK Gandhi game. Just don’t be surprised when no one takes you seriously.
And Adam, before you start defending the guy, I suggest you google Matt Heimbach’s name. He’s about as racist as they come.
Am I advocating for his expulsion? Hardly. But I am saying the community at large should turn a blind eye to his aberrant (not to mention abhorrent) behavior? Not even slightly.
Freedom of speech is not freedom FROM speech.
He has a right to speak, we have a right to criticize.
on March 28th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
You have “no hatred for other races?” Maybe you should read through the questions I have been repeatedly tossing at you, displaying your obsession with blacks as sub-humans and apes. You yourself have defended neo-Nazism, ordered other commenters on this website to “go away,” attacked their personalities, dress, even their sexual habits.
You have “no hatred for other races?” Read your own words, earlier in this very thread, about how everything you do is based on being a “white racist.”
You see yourself as a “white version of Gandhi?” The Mahatma respected all religions and peoples, and their teachings. He opposed racial bigotry, campaigned for India’s “untouchables,” and said, “A true pilgrim bows to all and despises none.” He pointed up the similarities between peoples and religions, noting how they all supported simple truths: love thy neighbor, worship God, perform community service, fight injustice. His movement was inclusive, and he did not demonize his enemies, wanting to see the British as friends, and Hindu and Muslim united to build a non-violent India.
As for your “advocacy” of your crusade, you have never once taken the stand of a leader, of pledging your life and sacred honor to the cause. What’s your name again? Your location? Your organization? Your web page? Where did you get your Ph.D.? In which “crummy college town” do you teach?
On the other hand, you have told us: “#47 Comment By Jason Smith On May 7, 2012 @ 12:17 pm A.D.M., Ruslan, Erica, Reynadine, Aron, etc … You will have to start doing your own work. Read some books. If you want to hire me as a consultant , I might do it, for a consulting fee of say $500 dollars per hour. I might be willing to give a speech at one of your events but I would charge a fee. Minimum $10K plus travel expenses. But no, I’m not going to do anything for you for free. FYI: I do not read any of your responses. I never click on your links. I am not going to do any work for you or answer your questions for free. I don’t do that.” Does that mean you are only involved in neo-Nazism for personal gain? It’s all about the money? Isn’t that the tactic you ascribe to the Jews you despise?
If you want to be the “white Gandhi,” you’re free to try. You’re not going to find too many adherents here, nor too many converts. You’re the one who keeps saying, “I can set up a web page with my own world view.” Well, do so. Stormfront and VNN are rolling right along, and so are many others. If you’re ignorant about setting up a web page, try the local community college, or read a book.
But bear in mind, freedom of speech does not mean that the whole world is going to gaze upon you in awe, wonder, and reverence…freedom of speech in the public arena is not freedom from criticism, as movie actors, ballplayers, and politicians well know. If you can’t handle hecklers, political opponents, and stand-up comedians using you as the target du jour, you’re in the wrong business.
In which case, you have three options: “Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way.” If you can’t lead your glorious crusade, find someone else to follow. If you don’t have the strength for that, I suggest you put up with it or move out to a compound in the Arizona desert and live your life free of everything you can’t stand.
In one of your many incarnations, you have urged your opponents to do the following: “I urge both of you to focus your lives on real world issues that will improve your lives, such as getting a better paying job, joining the military, getting married, saving up to buy a home, or doing anything that will make a real man out of you.” Have you done any of the above?
I suggest you try that yourself. And while you’re at it, add one other bullet to this “to-do list,” and that is: “Community Service.” Pick up some litter in a park. Donate time to a seniors’ home. Give blood. Do something to make your corner of the world a better place, instead of coming here to whine about it.
By the way, sometime ago, you arrogantly demanded from us our 10-year-resumes. How’s that project going?
For the past 70 years, neo-Nazis like you have been spouting your drivel, usually surrounded by hundreds of riot cops to make sure nobody can censor them and backed by ACLU lawyers (often Jewish) — so they’ve been exercising their freedom of speech pretty loudly and efficiently for decades.
And tell me, how far along are you on creating that all-White racial utopia full of big blondes with huge shoulders, rippling musicles, and bigger husbands? Got any adherents besides meth heads, schizophrenics, career criminals, confused teenagers, and confidence men?
Been out of your parents’ basement yet?
One last question…why are you so obsessed with black women’s sexuality? Seen “Mandingo” too often?
Ruslan Amirkhanov said,
on March 28th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
Edward, your arguments may get lots of point with the Stormfront crowd, but you’re about to learn that in the real world, they are pretty easily debunked.
“Some of you above seem to claim that one must prove they are a part of a ‘victim’ group, or ‘oppressed’ as a criterion for being ‘allowed’ to become a legitimate advocate.”
I have no idea what you’re talking about, but I think most rational people would agree that “not being part of the oppressing or at least dominant group” would be a good yardstick in this situation.
“I say this is false. I reject this precondition.”
Crap, he’s using the post-modernism!
” I contend that any group is free to advocate peacefully for the interests of their group. ”
Even a cursory glance at any number of statistics in America show that white people don’t need an advocacy group. Anything from wealth and assets to employment and even health statistics shows this.
“There is no official government agency that issues licenses proving victim status. Unlike getting a state license to practice dentistry, work as a real estate agent, electrician, or land surveyor. These are examples of state issued license requirements to practice a profession or trade.”
“Anyone can become a “community organizer”, “civil rights activist”, or “UFO researcher” for that matter. These are made-up labels.”
Yes, it doesn’t mean that it’s a good thing. You keep insinuating that someone is not “allowing” someone to do something and then you basically point out that nobody allows people to be these things anyway. Hell, declaring yourself something usually doesn’t mean anything either- you get deemed something by history.
“I am merely a white advocate. I am not a racist. I have no hatred for other races. I am advocating for white people, just as minorities have public spokesmen and organizers.”
Sure you say that, but then if we hear what you guys say to each other in private. If this seems unfair, by all means provide us with some forums where you guys gather to discuss your “advocacy.” Surely you have nothing to hide.
” I see myself as a white version of Gandhi. I advocate peaceful, non-violent means of protest for white people to work for their collective group interests.”
Ok first off, you might want to look up something called delusions of grandeur. Second, are you seriously comparing the situation of whites in America to that of Indians under British colonial rule? Really? If Indians under the Raj had lived like white people in America today, nobody would have had a need for Gandhi.
“You claim there is no history of whites being oppressed. Prove it!”
1. Nobody made this claim.
2. Your claim assumes that “white” is a valid identity and has been throughout history.
3. Burden of proof lies with the claimant.
” I can think of many historical examples. How about the Mongol invasions of the 13th century?”
There were no “whites” under Mongol rule and never were. There were mostly former Rus principalities, and it’s worth noting that one reason the Rus failed to repel the invaders is because in those days even the identity of “Russian” wasn’t very strong. Some principalities betrayed others to the Mongols. Later on, one Grand Prince became a blood brother of the Khan in his day, and working as an enforcer for the Mongols(who extracted tribute rather than colonized lands), built up his principality into the most dominant one in the region. That territory was known as Moscow.
” Perhaps Mongolia should pay reparations to the people of Eastern Europe.”
Perhaps. Did Mongolia profit off of free labor performed by those Europeans? Oh…wait.
” Or how about the Turkish invasion of the Balkans. Ever hear of “The Gates of Vienna”? This refers to the Turkish siege on that city in 1683 — relatively modern times.”
Characterizing the Ottoman Turks as “non-white” simply displays massive ignorance about that empire. When the Ottomans broke out of their minor beylik to conquer Anatolia and later the Byzantine Empire, one method of expansion was appealing to the local Greek nobility which often felt over-taxed or abandoned by the Byzantine emperors. The Ottomans promised Christian leaders the right to keep their titles of nobility in return for service to them. This was attractive to many of these types because the taxes that Christians paid(jizya) was lower than that demanded of Muslim(zakat) and in some cases of the Byzantine empire. Other, more ambitious types, converted to Islam so as to take part in the fortunes of the empire.
Characterizing these Ottoman conflicts as “white vs. non-white.” Is just ridiculous because:
1. Europeans fighting the Turks didn’t call themselves “white.”
2. Not all Christians fought against the Turks, and some Muslims fought for the Christian side. France was often an ally of the Ottoman Empire, for its own reasons. At the battle of Vienna, the principalities of Wallachia, Transylvania, and Moldova fought on the Turkish side, and Muslim Tatars fought in Poland’s army(they had been a core part of Polish light cavalry for generations, dating back to when they were invited to settle it what was then Lithuania by Vytautas).
3. The Ottomans divided communities by religion, not ethnicity, ergo what you would call “whites” who converted to Islam were integrated into the hierarchy of the empire itself. Throughout its entire history the Ottoman empire employed people of all sorts of nationalities in its administration and military from Russian deserters to English and Irish sailors.
4. The Ottomans didn’t even like the term Turk, which came to be an insult meaning a backward peasant. It was Ataturk who advanced the idea of a Turkish nationality and identity.
5. Ottoman Turkey was heavily influenced by Europe both ethnically and culturally, a fact made clear by comparing their society with earlier Selcuk and Central Asian Turkic peoples.
6. European Christian leaders under Turkish rule fought for the empire as well. A Serbian leader Stefan Lazarevic fought on the side of Sultan Bayazit II against Tamerlane at the battle of Ankara in 1402, AFTER the battle of Kosovo field.
“Muslims captured and enslaved white Europeans over the course of a thousand years during the middle ages.”
“Muslims” would include many Europeans. “Muslim” isn’t a race, remember. And to be fair, yes, many Christian slaves who ended up in galleys were severely oppressed, but you need to understand the key difference between that and European colonial chattel slavery. Read further.
“Northern Europeans were slaves in Rome, during Roman times. Ancient middle eastern civilizations captured white slaves from the northern Black sea region and also the Adriatic, and took them back to live as slaves.”
Again, some of those people were what you would call “white.” I say what you would call white because none of those people would have identified themselves thus, nor would they have agreed with your practice of grouping them all together like that. You have nothing in common with those people.
“I can list many historical examples of Europeans living taken as slaves.”
Sure…by other European people. What do we learn from this? Europeans aren’t one homogeneous people known as “white.”
Now I promised to explain why slavery in Islamic states and classical Europe was different from European colonial slavery(which incidentally has a history bound up with European liberalism). Chattel slavery was different because it made an entire “race”(their term) slaves in perpetuity. In Rome or Greece, if you were a slave there was a chance that your children or grandchildren could be born free. Also in those societies, there were usually some limits to what one could do with slaves. The Old Testament of the Bible is pretty brutal in regards to slavery, yet there are all kinds of limits imposed on slavemasters. American slavery, by contrast, made children born to black slaves automatically slaves, who could be split up at will. A black slave was to have absolutely no rights whatsoever. As one commentator of the late slavery era said, “A negro has no rights, which a white man is bound to respect.”
The second aspect concerns the reason why miscegenation laws were first concocted in the American colonies. They came about shortly after the Virginia slave laws which would bring about the concept of “whites” and “blacks.” If blacks were to be slaves in perpetuity while whites were to theoretically have some kind of rights(little though they were for most people), it was important to prevent the kind of co-mingling which went on when black and white slaves worked together. Otherwise you’d eventually have children coming out more or less white, which was a problem for a society which proclaimed that blacks were slaves by nature. Feel free to look this stuff up.
“white people to work for their collective group interests”
I don’t have automatic collective group interests with people for being white. A lot of white people are at the top of society, destroying thousands of lives every day for the sake of their profits. They are not my brothers and they aren’t yours. Look throughout history and you’ll see your so-called “whites” enslaving other “whites,” did they have collective group interests based on that?
LBJ wasn’t a great president per se, but he said one thing which explains white solidarity to a T: Convince the lowest white man that he’s better than the highest black man, and he won’t notice when you rob him blind.
You’re getting robbed, Edward.
Ruslan Amirkhanov said,
on March 28th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
You say, “‘white people’, based on all statistics, don’t need some kind of advocacy group.”
Why? Just because you say so?”
No, because there is no evidence that white people, in America, are oppressed and in need of an advocacy group. Do you even know WHY, for example, black Americans formed groups in the first place?
” What makes you so special? Tell us where we can get an official certificate proving we are part of a ‘victim’ group. Then, I’ll apply for this certificate, and THEN we will form our group.”
Apparently you think being a victim of oppression is a desirable thing. That just goes to prove how you know nothing about what it means to be oppressed. That in turn begs the question as to why you don’t know what that means. See where this is going?
When you can show me that white people in America are treated like Palestinian Arabs, Kurds in Turkey, Russians in Estonia or Latvia, etc., then you might have a case.
“We as white people don’t need your permission to form a white advocacy group.”
You say “we” as though white people as a whole are all automatically on the same side. That’s why people like you end up getting screwed again and again throughout history. There are powerful white people in America who couldn’t give two shits about the fact that you and they are both “white.” They’re quite happy with the way things are and they dictate what happens in America.
“Why are you the sole authority of history? Maybe your narrative of history is all lies? Maybe our narrative of history is the truth.”
Except it isn’t the truth. See now you’re degenerating into post-modernist whining. Oh why can’t OUR narrative be true. Well it’s not true because hard evidence says otherwise. Did you even bother to check?
See all those arguments you made here about alleged historical oppression of whites, like the ones on the Ottoman empire? You see those arguments are all extremely familiar to me. The problem is that once you take the time to do some real research and actually know what you’re talking about as opposed to sucking down canned arguments from Stormfront pseudo-intellectuals, you’ll realize how idiotic and pathetic they are. Real knowledge is something you acquire with work and time.
Moreover, your worldview displays the typical WN tendency to project American society onto Europe, which is obvious in how you equate “white” with European as though that was always the case(it isn’t today either).
Ruslan Amirkhanov said,
on March 28th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
If that’s a little TL/DR(although you should read it, because you’ll see how poorly your WN buddies prepped you to go out into the real world), let me point out two short things.
You seem to have this ever too popular idea that things are just a matter of personal or individual narratives. No, it doesn’t work that way. These things I say aren’t true because I say they are, but because that’s what objective study shows.
Ruslan Amirkhanov said,
on March 28th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
Let me just add one more personal thing, Edward. I smack down those canned arguments but I know they’re not your arguments. I’ve seen them before, and that tells me there may be hope for you yet. I know you’re new to the movement by the way you wield those claims; that means you haven’t tumbled all the way down the rabbit hole. So no matter what others say here, I haven’t written you off.
If you’re new, it’s probably because you’re still young, and if you’re young, you still have time. You can start questioning the information these WN conmen are feeding you, or you can go all in and waste years of your life fighting a losing battle, all the while having to look over your shoulder lest one of your honorable brothers stab you in the back.
You don’t have to admit it here, but be honest, if you read my initial smackdown of your historical claims you have to have felt that there definitely is a lot more to these topics than your WN buddies told you. You must have realized there’s a lot you didn’t know. Why would they send you out into battle armed with that? What else aren’t they telling you? Maybe they don’t have the answers. Think about it.
on March 28th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
Specifically on what points do you “advocate” for white people? What do you do, exactly? Because an “advocate” implies providing someone with assistance or protection or support in areas where they can’t help themselves well because of some social or physical disability. You get all huffy at the idea that whites don’t require special advocacy, yet you identify no area where they do need it. Unless you count protection against Mongol invaders.
WNs organizing or participating in apparently charitable public deeds (road-cleanups, voluntary crime patrols “for all races,” etc.) is always an attempt to present a (fake) humanitarian face on people who are anything but humanitarian.
on March 28th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
Tell me where I can get a certificate declaring me part of a special victim group. I want to apply.
on March 28th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
“What if a group of whites decide to form an advocacy group anyway, and they say, “We’re not going to ask Ruslan for permission.” What would you do then?”
Edward, I actually felt sorry for you when I read this. This is the kind of language used by a seven-year-old, not a healthy adult. Did you expect Ruslan’s answer to be that he would just take his ball home so no one could play?
It’s never too late to grow up.
on March 28th, 2013 at 8:37 pm
Yes,we will take away the guns from these crazies. You can absolutely count on it.
M. Bright said,
on March 29th, 2013 at 1:03 am
Other than being a bit smarmy, he seems to be following the Matt Hale/Francis Schaeffer Cox trajectory of hateful obsession, starting at a very young age, then getting progressively worse, until he does something really, really stupid and ends up in godawful little cage for his entire adult life.
Stephen D. Calhoun said,
on March 29th, 2013 at 8:52 am
Maryland has two histories. One is of racial cooperation and tolerance. The other is of intolerance. An early example of Maryland cooperation and tolerance is Mathias de Sousa.
Unfortunately, it appears that Mr. Heimbach suffers from a Maryland intolerance problem located between his ears.
Ruslan Amirkhanov said,
on March 29th, 2013 at 9:22 am
Edward, you’re not taking responsibility for your claims. Hell, all your claims about alleged oppression of “whites” in Europe is totally irrelevant anyway, seeing as how you live in America.
You would really do well to put your ego aside and read through my responses to your claims a little more closely. I don’t know if you were aware, but people knew about the Ottoman Empire and its history long before someone told you about it.
But in case you decide to double down in stupidity, I’ll take you up on your “victim application.” If such a document existed, what would you write on it?
Remember Edward, you don’t believe these things because you’re stupid, but to continue believing in these things you must become stupid, for the simple reason that holding such beliefs requires continually denying all facts to the contrary while actually being aware that you are avoiding said facts.